so we have mark halprin still with us, dr. jeffrey sachs still with us. joining us now, the special representative for afghanistan and pakistan, ambassador richard holbrooke who just returned from flood-ravaged regions of pakistan. we should begin right there. ifts a story simply not being told enough. thanks for coming on the show this morning. >> good to be back. >> give us a sense of what you saw and the size and the scope of the flooding. >> what i saw was an immense tragedy, an area the size of italy, an area which on the map i think we have here superimposed on the u.s., stretches from the canadian border all the way down to the florida border, just superimposed. about 20 million people are out of their homes. deaths have been a lot less than the tsunami or the haitian earthquake. >> a little over 1500 deaths. >> well, close to 2,000. the number is mercifully less. but what you've got now is a devastation, the greatest floods in history in the country. i saw two kinds of areas, joe. first, the areas in the province of cyn where the waters are still